I’m in my Head, Thinking my Thoughts

Mar 1, 2021Philosophy/Ethics, Tech0 comments

By ratiocination, I mean computation. […] all ratiocination is comprehended in these two operations of the mind, addition and substraction.

Thomas Hobbes, De Corpore, 1655

 

https://www.consciousentities.com/2013/02/feral-neurons/

 

In this post the dialogue is realised by an interaction of virtual characters, for more information please check the page “Virtual characters

Julia

Thanks again for all the information! ?

I’ve vastly improved my essay already ?

Today 11:32  

Cho

I also learnt a great deal. I am used to just thinking of brains as machinery ⚙️

Today 11:36   

Julia

There actually is a position a bit like that … ??‍♀️

Today 11:36  

Cho

You mean the one with the “homunculi” … ?                                  

Today 11:37

Julia

Right, that’s latin for “little person”…

you’d actually be like a little man sitting in a theatre, looking at all your sensations, and trying to make sense of them

Today 11:38   

Cho

You’re making me regret not having done latin and greek now … ?

but isn’t that the position he criticizes?

Today 11:40  

Julia

Yes, but he changes it around a bit.

If the actual “you” would be like a little person in your head, wouldn’t this “little person” need one of their own?

Today 11:42   

 

Cho

Right, an infinite regress of observes within observers that in the end fail to explain anything about consciousness

Today 11:43 

Julia

Indeed, then he came up with the idea of a whole bunch of “homunculi” that do really simple stuff, like detect lines or colors, 

Today 11:44   

Julia

then some combining those into simple shapes, like “read triangle”, and further down the line complex shapes, like “a rose” 

Today 11:44   

Cho

And that sounds a bit weird, but then he links that to neural machinery, and it becomes almost trivial … ?

Today 11:45   

Julia

But he means it like a kind of mental software running on the neural hardware, it is not exactly like the identity theory

Today 11:46   

Cho

No, that’s right, you explain that very clearly in the paper ?Someone like that would argue that you can run the same software on many different types of hardware

Today 11:46   

Julia

Yes, so that would account for neurodiversity? Right?

Today 11:47

Cho

I’m quite tempted to say yes, it does sound very convincing, but then he wants to run it on computers too …

Today 11:48   

 

Julia

You think that can’t be done?

Today 11:49 

Cho

Well, I’m no programmer, but at least nowadays I don’t think we have computers that are big enough or fast enough.

So, … maybe??

Today 11:49   

Julia

Do you think there is something special about the brain itself that allows us to think and be conscious?

Today 11:50 

Cho

Ah! I can see where you are going with this. That’s Searle’s theory, right?

Today 11:50   

Julia

Right!

Today 11:51 

Cho

I’ll have to think about it a bit more …?                                            

Today 11:52   

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