Natural Born Robots

Jan 30, 2021Philosophy/Ethics, Tech0 comments

NATURAL BORN ROBOTS

Brooks introduces Nouvell AI, also called fundamentalist AI. He compares and contrasts his Nouvell AI with the then-mainstream symbol system, also called classical AI. Read the complete articole that Manuel and Sam are discussing about:

https://msujaws.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/elephants-dont-play-chess/

In this post the dialogue is realised by an interaction of virtual characters, for more information please check the page “Virtual characters

Manuel

I was so hoping the hype were true …

Today 11:34   

Sam

Sorry to disappoint … 🙄😅😅                                                   

Today 11:35  

Manuel

So why isn’t AGI around the corner with these artificial brains?

Today 11:36  

Sam

😅 .. Again.. they’re not really artificial brains                          

Today 11:37

Sam

Neural networks make a lot of fairly simplistic assumptions about the brain being an information processor that just works with ones and zeroes

Today 11:37

Manuel

OK, fair enough, the model is simplistic. But it works! Right?

Today 11:38   

Sam

Yes it does, but we are training artificial neural networks in ways that don’t really match how brains learn, or how children learn

Today 11:39  

Manuel

How so? 😞

Today 11:39  

Sam

Apart from the brain having almost a 100 billion (with a b) neurons and the largest simulations barely cracking 10 million (with an m)?

Today 11:40  

Manuel

OK, ok, sure. But isn’t this about how they learn?

Today 11:43   

Sam

Yes, but the raw numbers are relevant too. Brains are fast and efficient because they are massively parallel: lots of problem solving all at once all over the place

Today 11:45   

Manuel

So the size of the brain has a lot to do with its speed?

Today 11:45   

Sam

Indeed, we don’t really know yet how and where all the computations take place

Today 11:46

Manuel

Aha, so because we don’t really know how human information processing works, we can’t really compare the two  🤓

Today 11:46  

Sam

Not just that, but also what kind of information is relevant to human processing

Today 11:46  

Manuel

Meaning? 😕

Today 11:46   

Sam

Well, humans make a lot of assumptions in the background, use lots of rules of thumb, apparently, to simplify their problems

Today 11:46   

Sam

We know what’s it like just live in a complex layered world full of meaning, more or less right from the start

Today 11:47   

Manuel

I guess, sure. The world isn’t a jumble of chaos that we interpret, in a sense we generally “just know” what stuff is. Is that it?

Today 11:47   

Sam

Indeed, and it is not at all easy to figure out how to have computers to the same. Simulating the entire world isn’t doable, but picking out what is relevant is also really hard

Today 11:48   

Manuel

I think I get it. So “Artificial General Intelligence” has more to do with general background knowledge than with general problem solving?

Today 11:48

Sam

Yes, it would mean that a robot in the real world would constantly be solving an immense number of problems that we don’t really even notice

Today 11:49   

Sam

It doesn’t know what is relevant and irrelevant, because …

Today 11:49   

Manuel

… the world isn’t a chessboard! I get it … ♟️♟️♟️

Today 11:50

Sam

But then again, maybe that’s just what we need: a robot that is born and evolves in our same naturel world. How could it come to understand it otherwise?

Today 11:51   

Manuel

🤖🤖 Robots!

Today 11:52

Manuel

I wanted to talk more about robots …

Today 11:52

Sam

Hey, I love talking about robots! Let’s do that next time       

Today 11:53   

Manuel

Thanks for the chat! 😄😄

Today 11:53

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