Write What you don’t Know
The task of a science of consciousness is to systematically integrate two key classes of data into a scientific framework:
Third-person data, or data about behavior and brain processes
First-person data, or data about subjective experience
Julia and John are talking about the following article:
Do We Need To Study The Brain To Understand The Mind?
- Suzy Hazelwood from Pexels
- Markus Spiske from Pexels
In this post the dialogue is realised by an interaction of virtual characters, for more information please check the page “Virtual characters“
I think I’ve got the final part worked out now
I agree, this makes for a nice closer to the series😊
Since you mentioned Descartes _twice_ I just had to include him😊
Ha! But I couldn’t believe what you wrote at first and had to look it up 😄
That Descartes is not actually a dualist? I was surprised too at first
Yeah! I always thought he was the main example for completely separating mind and body
Well, in a sense you’re right, but he also does say that “I and the body constitute one single thing”
Sounds perfectly logical, but the way he explains the link …
He just points out that mind-body interaction works differently from body-body interaction
So looking at how matter and energy bounce around in the brain …
… can’t tell the whole story about the mind and consciousness
I think I actually agree, but isn’t that very sceptical? 😏
My French might be rusty, but my Latin is non-existent
“We don’t know and will never know” how the brain causes the mind
And that gives you the jumping-off point to discuss alternatives
Indeed! Do you think it works?
As long as you keep the Latin to a minimum … 😊
I’ll just paraphrase him then and reference the original
That would be better. 👍
… Continue to read the conversation between John and Julia
on Saturday 24th July…
Total posts on the argument
What is AI compared to the hand that wields it?
It suddenly started drawing – in a naturalistic style. Yesterday I was watching it whizzing around, and the result really did look almost like you. That’s when I threw it away…
Anything is art if an AI says it is
Do not you understand? This is a whole new dimension, even according to the canons of the classical “art sacre”. This is a real revolution. Do you understand, ladies and gentlemen? This is the first hot plastic artwork! You! You! My boy … you are an artist!
“Young man, you don’t think I’m encountering constructive symbolism for the first time, do you? “Unplug”: free yourself from physicality, from the vulgar earthbound physicality, from the evils of civilization, from electricity, nerves, and so on. Isn’t that what this is? The association is crystal clear, I’d be tempted to say, perhaps even too obvious” (Kishon 1987)
AI see, AI do
You young badgers imagine that it would be enough to smear a pound of paint on the canvas and you’re already a modern painter. I would be willing to accept this abomination for a bad joke, if there was even the slightest humor behind it. But this here is an abracadabra! A nothing!