Write What you don’t Know

Jul 16, 2021Philosophy/Ethics, Tech0 comments

The task of a science of consciousness is to systematically integrate two key classes of data into a scientific framework:

Third-person data, or data about behavior and brain processes
and
First-person data, or data about subjective experience

Chalmers 2004

Julia and John are talking about the following article:
Do We Need To Study The Brain To Understand The Mind?

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Julia

I think I’ve got the final part worked out now                                        

Today 17:06

John

I agree, this makes for a nice closer to the series😊

Today 17:07   

Julia

Since you mentioned Descartes _twice_ I just had to include him😊 

Today 17:07

John

Ha! But I couldn’t believe what you wrote at first and had to look it up 😄

Today 17:08   

Julia

That Descartes is not actually a dualist? I was surprised too at first

Today 17:08

John

Yeah! I always thought he was the main example for completely separating mind and body

Today 17:09   

Julia

Well, in a sense you’re right, but he also does say that “I and the body constitute one single thing”

Today 17:09

John

Sounds perfectly logical, but the way he explains the link …

Today 17:10   

Julia

He just points out that mind-body interaction works differently from body-body interaction

Today 17:11

John

So looking at how matter and energy bounce around in the brain …

Today 17:11  

Julia

… can’t tell the whole story about the mind and consciousness        

Today 17:12

John

I think I actually agree, but isn’t that very sceptical? 😏

Today 17:13   

Julia

A bit: “Ignoramus et ignorabimus” (Du Bois-Reymond 1872)             

Today 17:14

John

My French might be rusty, but my Latin is non-existent

Today 17:14   

Julia

“We don’t know and will never know” how the brain causes the mind

Today 17:15

John

And that gives you the jumping-off point to discuss alternatives

Today 17:15   

Julia

Indeed! Do you think it works?                                                                 

Today 17:16

John

As long as you keep the Latin to a minimum … 😊

Today 17:17   

Julia

I’ll just paraphrase him then and reference the original                     

Today 17:18

John

That would be better. 👍

Today 17:18   

… Continue to read the conversation between John and Julia 
on Saturday 24th July…

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