Young man, you don’t think I’m encountering constructive symbolism for the first time, do you? “Unplug”: free yourself from physicality, from the vulgar earthbound physicality, from the evils of civilization, from electricity, nerves, and so on. Isn’t that what this is? The association is crystal clear, I’d be tempted to say, perhaps even too obvious

Kishon 1986

Sam and Manuel are talkin about https://labelerrors.com

In this post the dialogue is realised by an interaction of virtual characters, for more information please check the page “Virtual characters

Sam

Have you ever been somewhere abroad where you didn’t understand the language at all?

Today 15:48  

Manuel

Yes, sure, I’ve been to Japan last year to cover a robotics conference and demo

Today 15:48  

Sam

Cool! So imagine someone there pointing at a robot prototype and saying something to you in Japanese

Today 15:50  

Manuel

OK, that’s easy to imagine … since it did happen! A lot!

Today 15:51  

Sam

Great, so they point at the robot and say “shiro” …                             

Today 15:52  

Manuel

… yes? So?

Today 15:53 

Sam

So what do you get from that? Is the name of the robot, of one of its parts, its color, its function?                                          

Today 15:55  

Manuel

Right, maybe I see what you’re getting at “ostensive definitions”, pointing and saying a word can be quite vague …

Today 15:58  

Sam

Exactly. Tagging an image is vage and can be ambiguous. It’s not like the AI knows from the outset what is what                      

Today 16:02  

Sam

In “man riding a bike” anything could be the bike or the man. It needs to learn by combining a lot of those images                      

Today 16:02  

Manuel

Generalizing from the data, but somewhat … blindly

Today 16:01  

Sam

Generalizing from very messy data. We’re not feeding it a textbook on photography or drawing portraits, but random tagged images from the internet                        

Today 16:05  

Manuel

Ouch, yes, I can see why that might trip it up … but what about the scribbling thing?

Today 16:06  

Sam

Kids learn to draw in stages and there’s a specific stage, somewhere when they’re around 3 or 4 when they start drawing people and faces

Today 16:07  

Manuel

Right, with the legs directly attached to the head, like an octopus!

Today 16:08  

Sam

Yep, but more importantly, they have started to realize that bodies and faces have parts: eyes, noses, fingers, etc.

Today 16:10  

Manuel

But then they draw them all over the place … ah, I think I get it …

Today 16:11  

Sam

The AI doesn’t know exactly what’s what, just that it needs to be somewhere in the picture            

Today 16:12  

Manuel

And then you get bikes with too many pedals, just like scribbles of people with too many fingers or a nose next to an eye

Today 16:12  

Sam

I don’t want to sound too negative here, it is definitely an interesting development and has attracted a lot of interest

Today 16:13  

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