Brainless Myths

Brainless Myths

Brainless Myths

What I have just said of the network, on its structure and, above all, on the fact that all the parts of the central nervous system make up a part of it, proves the anatomical and functional continuity between nerve cells.

(Golgi 1906)

​https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/brain-myths

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John

There are some really silly myths about the brain 🤣 

Today 15:41   

Cho

I know, whenever I teach an intro class that’s what my first lecture is about 😄

Today 15:42

John

We’ve got some oldies in there, for context, like the Reticular Theory

Today 15:43

Cho

I must confess I don’t know that one … 🤨                                  

Today 15:43

John

Oh, this is from the 19th century, before we could clearly make out single neurons and synapses ..

Today 15:44   

John

people like Golgi thought it was one giant network without gaps

Today 15:44   

Cho

Wow, I did not know that …  😯                                                      

Today 15:45

John

We use some of the old misconceptions to show that people seriously believed stuff we now know is nonsense 

Today 15:44   

John

so that the readers might get that some of the things they seriously believe …

Today 15:44   

Cho

… may very well turn out to be nonsense as well. 😊                

Today 15:45

John

We do all the classics: left vs right, male vs female, the brain works like a computer, etc.

Today 15:45   

Cho

That last one is so very annoying! Lots of students think that. 😊    

Today 15:46

John

We actually don’t go into the whole “artificial neural network” thing, but just point out that the brain isn’t organized like the PC on your desk.

Today 15:47   

Cho

That’s helpful, but as long we keep talking about “intelligent” machines, the metaphor will keep working both ways.

Today 15:47

John

Maybe we could point out something like that in the article too …

Today 15:48   

Cho

I’d like to add a myth, if you don’t have it yet: mirror neurons  

Today 15:48

John

Aren’t they real? 😄

Today 15:49   

Cho

Sure, but they’ve been overhyped and people tried to use them to explain anything and everything

Today 15:49

John

I see. You’re right, I remember there were a lot of publication linking them to empathy, autism, learning any physical skill, etc.

Today 15:50   

Cho

That’s what I mean: hype. They exist and are interesting, but can’t explain everything.

Today 15:51

John

OK, good one, I’ll check with the other writers and likely add a paragraph about that. ☺️

Today 15:51   

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​https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/489943

John and Cho are talking about the following article:
Woman of 24 found to have no cerebellum in her brain

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John

So we know the brain isn’t just “neurons”

Today 15:41   

Cho

Indeed, there are many different types, with different functions      

Today 15:42

John

Describing the brain as “neurons” would be like describing the body as “cells” 🤭

Today 15:43   

Cho

Exactly, well said!  😉                                                                                 

Today 15:43

John

So we do talk quite a bit about various types of neurons and Glia cells

Today 15:44   

Cho

Very good, that should be informative                                                   

Today 15:44

John

What should we mention besides Interneurons , pyramidal cells , and rosehip neurons ?

Today 15:44   

Cho

Oh, but you’re forgetting all about the cerebellum! Purkinje and Golgi cells  

Today 15:45

John

Oops! You’re absolutely right, we were too much focused on the cerebrum 😊😊

Today 15:45   

Cho

That’s what most people do, they assume “brain” is actually just the two main hemispheres                                                                      

Today 15:46

John

Thanks for reminding us there’s more 😊

Today 15:47   

Cho

No problem  😉                                                                                          

Today 15:47

John

But we’re not going to go into too much detail about the brainstem in this article

Today 15:48   

Cho

Fair enough, can’t do everything  😉                                                      

Today 15:48

John

We do mention that the brain is mostly fat and water … 🧠

Today 15:49   

Cho

Well, that’s not very helpful …  most types of cells are ..                     

Today 15:49

John

… to introduce our next article topic: myths about the brain 🧠

Today 15:50   

Cho

Ah!   Yes, I see why you would mention it then 😄                               

Today 15:51

John

“We only use 10% of our brain”

Today 15:51   

Cho

🙄🙄🙄                                                                                                       

Today 15:52

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Consciousness

…This is the castle keep, the central redoubt, the core essence of true mentality, many will argue, and it has so far escaped any plausible reconstruction in neurocomputational terms

​Churchland 1994, 212

John and Cho are talking about the following article:
Early Ideas on the Localization of Vital Functions

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Cho

So here is a list of examples of people who thought they could find the exact spot where consciousness is located in the brain

Today 15:40

Cho

Longet thought it would be in the corpus callosum, Drelincourt in the cerebellum, Lotze and Herbart in the pons

Today 15:41

John

Cool! We didn’t have Lotze and Herbart, I think I might add those …

Today 15:41   

Cho

Be sure to check in with my student, she might have more information for you                                                                     

Today 15:42

John

Certainly, I’ll acknowledge her in the article if I use her paper 😊

Today 15:43   

Cho

Good! They all tried to put consciousness in some unique, asymmetrical part of the brain                                                            

Today 15:43

John

Yeah, like Descartes with the pineal gland 😊

Today 15:44   

Cho

There still are people trying to do that, you know. Churchland wrote a whole Book about it                                              

Today 15:44

John

I don’t think we have him in the list … 🤔

Today 15:44   

Cho

He proposed that consciousness would be located in the intralaminar nucleus                                

Today 15:45

John

I’ll jot that down now, can you mail me the precise reference later?

Today 15:45   

Cho

Sure, no problem. 😊                                                                                

Today 15:46

John

This has been very helpful!

Today 15:47   

Cho

So what’s next?  😊                                                                                    

Today 15:47

John

We’ve got an article on what the brain is actually made of

Today 15:48   

Cho

Oh, good one, people make the weirdest assumptions about that  

Today 15:48

John

Yes, they do!

Today 15:49   

Cho

Like it would all just be neurons …  😊                                                   

Today 15:49

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John and Cho are talking about  Consciousness 

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John

Hi Cho, can I ask your help for something?

Today 15:38   

Cho

Sure John, what’s up? 😊                                                                          

Today 15:40

John

I’m working on a series of articles on the brain for a magazine …

Today 15:41   

Cho

Nice! 😊                                                                                                       

Today 15:41

John

… and I just wanted to do some fact-checking

Today 15:42   

Cho

OK, what can I do for you?                                                                        

Today 15:42

John

So the first article is about consciousness

Today 15:43   

Cho

Oh, interesting, I recently had a conversation with a student about that                                                                       

Today 15:43

John

Good, so the topic is whether we can localize consciousness in the brain 

Today 15:44   

Cho

Ha, I don’t think so!                                                                                    

Today 15:44

John

That’s the conclusion of the article as well, but we want to show why people weren’t crazy to think that it could be done

Today 15:44   

Cho

Fair enough, but what are you basing that on?                                     

Today 15:45

John

Well, we start in the 19th century when people like Flourens were trying to find the “vital node”

Today 15:45   

Cho

I remember reading about that in an intro class, he just started cutting in the brainstem of rabbits!                                    

Today 15:46

John

Yep, to see what would happen, until he found one spot where the animal stopped moving completely

Today 15:47   

Cho

My kids would kill me if I did work like that …  😄                                

Today 15:47

John

Sure, stuff like this isn’t really justifiable anymore, but he thought he had found something really fundamental

Today 15:48   

Cho

My student had a whole list of people trying to find something like that by various means                                                

Today 15:48

John

Interesting! Do you remember who? We might include some more examples …

Today 15:39   

Cho

Sure, let met pull up the paper she wrote …  😊                                  

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You young badgers imagine that it would be enough to smear a pound of paint on the canvas and you’re already a modern painter. I would be willing to accept this abomination for a bad joke, if there was even the slightest humor behind it. But this here is an abracadabra! A nothing!

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