Embodied Bodies

Embodied Bodies

Embodied Bodies

Once incorporated into a body, then, a prosthesis is no longer merely an object, in the sense that we can no longer straightforwardly deny that it has or plays a role in a person’s subjectivity

Walker 2019

Manuel, Cho and Sam are talking about the following paper:
On Replacement Body Parts

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Group Chat

Manuel, Cho, Sam

Manuel

Julia pointed out to us that medical technology is both extremely old and has always been linked with sci-fi or mythology

Today 15:38   

Manuel

Apparently the first-ever mention of a prosthetic leg dates back over 3000 years to the Indian Rig Veda “Vishpala

Today 15:38   

Cho

That is indeed extremely old, but I do know that cavemen already performed brain surgery, so …😊                                                         

Today 15:39  

Sam

But this is mythological, right? I’m not sure how advanced it was … did it have moving joints?

Today 15:40   

Manuel

We don’t really know, but we have an actual prosthetic big toe from Egypt from around the same time “Ancient Egyptian’s wooden toe is sophisticated prosthetic

Today 15:42  

Cho

That would actually be more advanced than a simple peg leg!

Today 15:43  

Manuel

The first moving joints were developed in the middle ages, as far as we know.

Today 15:43 

Sam

Yeah, I suppose that wooden prosthetics rarely survived intact

Today 15:44   

Manuel

There’s a Roman artificial leg, but no joints “Copy of Roman artificial leg, London, England, 1905-1915

Today 15:45  

Cho

I do know some of this history, but I suppose you are also going to look to the future?

Today 15:46  

Manuel

Oh, absolutely! The point is that mythology and then sci-fi are full of amputations and replaced limbs

Today 15:46  

Sam

Sorry for being a nerd, but we will get to Darth Vader at some point, right?😊                                               

Today 15:47   

Manuel

Ha! Sure, that’s a great example actually. At some point we slip from just replacing, to improving.

Today 15:47  

Cho

Now I see where you are going with this, yes. When is a prosthetic healing and when enhancing?

Today 15:48  

Sam

I guess that this is linked to, well, an engineering mindset, I’d say.     If the body is a machine, we can repair as well as improve it.

Today 15:49   

Manuel

See? This is exactly why I needed both of you for this! When is something actually “enhancement”?

Today 15:50  

Cho

There are quire a few ethical problems linked to that … doctors “playing god” and all that.

Today 15:50 

Sam

Same here: as soon as you start talking about an AI that is more than human, things get really complicated.

Today 15:51   

Manuel

I’m looking forward to hearing all about it!

Today 15:52  

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Sketchy AI

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“Young man, you don’t think I’m encountering constructive symbolism for the first time, do you? “Unplug”: free yourself from physicality, from the vulgar earthbound physicality, from the evils of civilization, from electricity, nerves, and so on. Isn’t that what this is? The association is crystal clear, I’d be tempted to say, perhaps even too obvious” (Kishon 1987)

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Build Humans Back Better

Build Humans Back Better

Build Humans Back Better

You’re a human being. Why not stay a human being?
Because I want the best and that’s a metallic heart.

Isaac Asimov

Manuel, Cho and Sam are talking about the following paper:
SEGREGATIONIST

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Group Chat

Manuel, Cho, Sam

Manuel

Hi Cho! Hi Sam! Great that you could both make it!

Today 11:38   

Cho

Sure, no problem! Hi everyone! 😊                                                         

Today 11:39  

Sam

Hi all! You want to talk about robots again? 😄

Today 11:40   

Manuel

Actually, no, and we’d be leaving Cho out …😄

Today 11:40  

Cho

Except for the machinery in our lab, I’m not really into robotics 😄

Today 11:40  

Manuel

I’d like to interview you both about cognitive enhancement

Today 11:41  

Cho

That does sound more up my alley!                                                        

Today 11:42  

Sam

So, is this about AI and brain implants?

Today 11:42   

Manuel

Well, yes and no, I mean, not just about that …

Today 11:43  

Manuel

I’d also like to hear your views on the idea of enhancement as such

Today 11:43  

Cho

Like, philosophically, ethically?                                                                

Today 11:44  

Sam

I did take a course on the ethics of AI (Ethics of Artificial Intelligence and Robotics), but I’m not sure whether that’s the same

Today 11:45   

Manuel

Let me explain a bit then:

Today 11:45  

Manuel

Remember the piece about science and sci-fi John and I were working on? Life Imitating Science

Today 11:45  

Cho

Sure, that was very interesting! 😊                                                         

Today 11:45  

Sam

And that actually was about robots … again! 😊                          

Today 11:45   

Manuel

I know you love talking about robots, so I keep bringing them up …

Today 11:45  

Manuel

Thanks to Julia we started writing on all the ways humans have tried to improve themselves

Today 11:45  

Sam

A kind of history of tool use?

Today 11:45   

Cho

Or medicine?                                                                                               

Today 11:45  

Manuel

Both actually! That’s why I need both your expertise here: this is about prosthetics.

Today 11:46  

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“Young man, you don’t think I’m encountering constructive symbolism for the first time, do you? “Unplug”: free yourself from physicality, from the vulgar earthbound physicality, from the evils of civilization, from electricity, nerves, and so on. Isn’t that what this is? The association is crystal clear, I’d be tempted to say, perhaps even too obvious” (Kishon 1987)

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Do not touch the machine

Anton Des Roubles: I am dead – my body is dead – but I still live.
I am this machine.
These racks of apparatus are my brain, which is thinking even as yours is..

John Campbell “The Infinite Brain” 1930

Cho and John are talking about the following article:
Brain Computer Interfaces: The reciprocal role of science fiction and reality

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John

Hi Cho, can I ask you some questions about brain implants?

Today 15:43

Cho

Hi John, sure, ask away 😉                                                                       

Today 15:43

John

I’m collaborating with a journalist, Manuel, on a piece about the connections between science and Sci-Fi

Today 15:43

Cho

Interesting, there’s a lot of hype an misinformation out there, this sounds useful. 🙂

Today 15:44

John

Indeed! Specifically, I’d like to go over one example of an implant from a book

Today 15:44   

Cho

OK, I’ve read a lot of sci-fi as a student, I hope I know it … 😄           

Today 15:45

John

It’s called “The Turing Option” by Harry Harrison and Marvin Minsky

Today 15:45   

Cho

I know Minsky of course!, he founded MIT’s AI laboratory!                 

Today 15:46

John

Good! So they co-wrote this book about a brain implant that can help heal brain damage

Today 15:46   

Cho

Cool, I don’t know the book, but I wish we had such a thing. How would this device work?

Today 15:47

John

Basically they implant a tiny supercomputer in the damaged area, which would reconnect severed neurons

Today 15:48   

Cho

That does sound like sci-fi indeed: the question is how?. 😏             

Today 15:48

John

They use something called “PNEP film chips—programmable neural electron pathway devices

Today 15:49   

John

these are “coated with living embryonic human nerve cells”, first attached to an external computer, later to the implant

Today 15:49  

Cho

This actually starts to sound realistic, Minsky knew what he was doing.

Today 15:50

John

So this checks out? We can do something like this nowadays?

Today 15:51   

Cho

Yes and no. Forget about the scale of the problem, we can’t deal with millions of neurons yet

Today 15:52

Cho

and even a supercomputer can’t keep up with the brain, let alone an implantable one!

Today 15:53

John

OK the problems of scale, but in principle? Repairing the brain?

Today 15:53   

Cho

Maybe. We can inject stem-cells and these would indeed reform connections in a damaged area,

Today 15:54

Cho

and we can implant a chip in the brain to receive and send impulses, “read and write” if you like.

Today 15:55

Cho

The trick would be to link those: guiding regrowth with AI.                
In principle, that should be possible.                         

Today 15:56

John

Great! Thank you so much!

Today 15:57   

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The brain is susceptible of many operations, which may, in various cases, preserve the life of the patients…
Wounds of this organ … are almost as easily cured, as those of most of the other

Quesnay 1743, tr. 1750

Cho and John are talking about the following article:
Organoids to Rebuild the Brain

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Cho

So which new brain-things are your going to discuss  😉                   

Today 15:42

John

Some medical technology, but mainly BCI’s

Today 15:43

Cho

BCI’s???   😯                                                                                                 

Today 15:43

John

Cho

I know what it means, I was just surprised  😄                                     

Today 15:45

John

Why? 😊

Today 15:44   

Cho

There’s a limited number of legitimate applications in medicine, like brain-controlled prosthetics, but for now it is mostly hype

Today 15:45

John

What do you mean?

Today 15:45   

Cho

Like the Neuralink, and getting a brain implant so you can change the channel on your TV

Today 15:46

John

That’s not actually how it is marketed you know … and not all BCI require surgery

Today 15:47   

Cho

Fine, I’m just a bit skeptical about it for now. 😏                                  

Today 15:47

John

That’s OK, we’re writing about the future possibilities, so we’re allowed a bit of science fiction here

Today 15:48   

Cho

So, learning stuff overnight without having to study and augmentation

Today 15:48

John

A little bit of that, but also some very different stuff

Today 15:49   

Cho

Such as?                                                                                                       

Today 15:49

John

Besides BCI’s we talk about possibilities for healing the brain through stem cell transplants

Today 15:50   

Cho

OK, that is something quite different indeed …                                    

Today 15:51

John

Or using brain organoids to replace pieces of the brain affected by a stroke or cancer removal

Today 15:51   

Cho

Now those are indeed very interesting to me! Send me the article and I’ll happily go through it

Today 15:52

John

Sending as we speak! 😉

Today 15:53   

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Oubliette

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Oubliette

The advantage of a bad memory is that, several times over, one enjoys the same good things for the first time

Nietzsche Human all too Human, 580

Cho and John are talking about the following article:
The Abyss

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John

The last topic I wanted to discuss with you is brain damage and diseases

Today 15:41   

Cho

I suppose you also have the classics here … Gage, Tan, HM, Clive Wearing

Today 15:42

John

Not so fast! Yes, Phineas Gage we have, “Tan” … that’s Louis Leborgne , right?

Today 15:43

Cho

Right, and “HM” is Henry Molaison 😉                                                   

Today 15:43

John

Oh, of course, we have him! Everyone knows him now because of the movie “Memento”.

Today 15:44   

Cho

I liked that movie because it is surprisingly accurate 😊                    

Today 15:45

John

Can I quote you on that? 😊

Today 15:44   

Cho

Sure, most blockbusters deal with memory loss in totally implausible ways, so … 👍

Today 15:45

John

We actually have him in the article for multiple reasons.

Today 15:45   

Cho

Obviously: like Leborgne, he too suffered from epileptic seizures, and his memory loss was due to the operation to “cure” them

Today 15:46

John

Indeed! We go into detail about why splitting the brain in half sometimes works

Today 15:47   

Cho

Yeah, it isn’t really a “cure” though 😏                                                          

Today 15:47

John

That’s what we try to point out, but it is similar to brain cancer: better to cut it out

Today 15:48   

Cho

I see your point, the lesser evil, but it is frustrating                             

Today 15:48

John

What is? 

Today 15:49   

Cho

Not actually being able to heal it, only to treat it with such coarse interventions

Today 15:49

John

The next article actually is about the future and the brain

Today 15:50   

Cho

Meaning new medical technologies?                                                      

Today 15:51

John

Yes and no … 😉

Today 15:51   

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